Welcome to our live 'House of Cards' chat with David Zurawik, Jordan Bartel and Anne Tallent, who will all be joining us in a couple minutes.
We're only going to be talking about the first episode of Season 2. No spoilers beyond that.
I know I'm keen to talk about the BIG MOMENT. David and Jordan, what did you guys think?
I'm wondering if anyone saw it coming. I didn't. It absolutely blew me away. I also wonder how folks felt about Zoe -- as a person, a journalist.
One Sun colleague sent me an email at midnight Saturday, just as she saw it ahppen saying, "About time. I hate her."
As a journalist, I have to say that I don't respect and dislike Zoe. I think I knew she was going to die. That said, I don't think she deserved it.
Sara, I came pretty close to gasping. I didn't really jump out of my seat. But I stood up, stopped the stream and took a deep breath.
Also, as our recapper noted, Frank Underwood was "dressed as The Bookworm from the 1960s Batman show." Nobody deserves to be killed by someone dressed that way.
Every editor I talked to at the Sun disliked Zoe. I think part of that was that the series was filmed here, so even though she worked for the Washington Herald, we went into thinking she somehow respresented us a little. No way.
No way that she represented our values, but I think we felt people might see her that way. That said, I think screenwriter Beau Willimon did a great job of surprising us with her death. Famous last words, "I can handle Underwood."
Considering Zoe was clever and thought Frank might have been capable of murder, I thought it was an interesting (questionable?) choice that the writers let her be so trusting with him.
David, I think you make a good point. If I'm watching a depiction of a journalist, there's probably going to be some kind of identification with the character, and a question of: Does this really represent us?
Anne,I don't think she was as trusting of him as arrogant about her own talents and skills in handling him, maybe? Journalists are a pretty arrogant bunch, plus she had the great arrogance of youth. I think Willimon was being Shakespearean in exploring her rise and fall.
Hi Scott, Why do you think killing off characters is lazy storytelling. Do you think David Simon was lazy with the death of Stringer Bell? Or how about the deaths on the "Sopranos"?
I loved the "wither and die" line. No sentimental or spared feelings here. That's the kind of line that makes me think this series will go where most others will not.
That's because we are, Jordan.
Hello Jordan, Only me. I was speaking only for me and arrogance. Ha.
The "wither and die" line is chilling. Claire is more of a cipher because we don't get her point of view the way we get Frank's, either.
Maybe she'd have Frank do it for her?
Scott, how else do you think the series might have handled the risk that Zoe represented to Frank?